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What have YOU experienced?
While I am relatively fascinated by the super-natural and the para-normal, I myself have never seen anything remotely unusual or bizarre. However, in my ongoing effort to find something, anything, that transcends the tangible foundations of our world...
Let's hear some stories. I am open to everything, but I believe in Nothing.
Let's keep an open mind, respect each other's stories and beliefs, and keep this a safe place for experiential exploration. Honor the CoH, and each other.
When we lived in Phoenix we saw a bunch of lights fly over head in a V formation. It was later that I heard it called The Phoenix Lights. It was the single weirdest thing I'd ever seen.
I lived about 8 miles from a medium sized airport, with nothing but country roads in between. I and four others, swear we saw a low cigar shaped something, just above the tree line that literally and silently floated across the road from right to left. We watched in terror as we leaned on the hood, when we DID get back in the car, we left the scene in reverse for a great distance, not wanting to turn our backs on it.
Ghosts..... grew up with the idea in UK as it was a normal thing to have places and houses to have long dead ancestors and occupants, still remain.
it was weird but what was even weirder was when I went to the video store the other day and saw that they had made a film about the lights. It was rather interesting.
very true. I think we may well find out someday and hopefully I'm still around when that day comes.
I live in the Pacific Northwest where Bigfoot has supposedly been seen many times. I haven't seen him personally but I am very curious about the subject. I suppose however improbable...his existance is not impossible.
Gwaarin, I live in the PNW also. Wasn't there a report [not on NV] several years ago that is was a hoax created by an individual? Or was that proven as a scam?
Yes I believe you're right. You mean about the Patterson video, I think that was determined to be a hoax? Or the most recent one that I also believe was a hoax. Here is the link to it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERdW5IiWHGA
Here is the Patterson video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJjUt2sXo5o
What part of the PNW do you live? I'm in Oregon.
Thanks for the links, I'll look.
Western Washington. I've spent some time in Oregon, the coast and Bend. I've only toured eastern Or. - really awesome!
Thanks :)...the sad thing is I live less than 8 miles from the beach but I hardly ever go there. I think it's one of those things that people just end up taking for granted.
I think so too. It can become a "we look...but don't see".
I heard a ghost and I saw a ufo.
It was late at night and I was at my friends, we were watching television and I heard what sounded like laughing (it sounded like a kid by the way) it was incredibly real I looked around and then looked at my friend and she was like "did you hear that too" I told her I heard it too. The only thing on was the television and her mom was in the shower and no one else was home. We continued to sit there but I didn't hear anything else.
I saw the ufo in the car on my way visiting my sister in Virgina, I looked out the window and in the sky was a silver circular aircraft it was near clouds, the first thing I noticed was that it didn't have any wings and our car was moving so I couldn't tell if it was sitting there, but I think it was. I watched it and then it just turned very quickly and flew off behind clouds. I'm not saying there were aliens in it but whatever it was is strange, and if that was something we made I don't know why we don't use it because it seemed very fast.
My boyfriend and someone he knows saw one when he was in his backyard, he said it was shaped like a flashlight and it was moving and then just changed direction and flew off fast.
I don't know what it was, but I've put it down on this poll as a UFO sighting. I went to school at Murray, KY and I was one of many many people that saw this, and I don't know what it was. It was about midnight on a cold February night, and to the south of Murray, way up in the sky were flashing lights. But they didn't look like they were connected, in any way.
It would flash green over here, then way over on the other side, it would flash green, then a red in the center, then a blue up near the top of the sky, then green over here another place, then red over there another place. They didn't appear to be connected, there was no noise, and they appeared to be random.
The only explanation I can think of is that Murray is not too far from Ft. Campbell and there were a bunch of helicopters up that night, shuffling around and flashing lights. It lasted for about 1/2 hour and bunches of people saw them.
Probably something out of Ft. Campbell. :-)
You have to remember, UFO means an unidentified flying object. That does not mean it has to be a saucer with little green men. It just means that it was unidentifiable to you. So, I said yes also.
Thanks, Ben. I sure couldn't identify them... The funny thing is that it was so completely random-- red over here then green over there, then green over here and red over there... they couldn't possibly have traveled, even in a helicopter, from that distance so quickly. Just funny.
red over here then green over there, then green over here and re over there...
Just a random Christmas thought--could it have been Santa or the Christmas Spirit? LOL. Oh wait, it was February...nevermind ;-)
You know, I've thought of just about everything I could think of, and Santa is about as good an explanation as any! :-)
I still think it was dancing helicopters from Ft. Campbell.
I know Dowser that you are most likely right--just feeling goofy tonight.
Yeah, right, like helicopters can dance! Santa sounds good to me! I'm ready...
Dowser,
Of course they can dance! They are pretty amazing machines, actually. (hugs).
Thanks, sweet chelli!
I think I'm on my last legs tonight... time to go and finish watching Urban Cowpie with my boy, and then off to bed!
((((((((((((chelli))))))))))))))love you dear friend!
You want ghosts? I live in a building that is full of them. Both people and animals, and they are especially active around the holidays, which makes life really interesting. they have no problems making themselves noticed with knocking, tapping and opening doors. Although they love pranking with people, they have never hurt anyone here.
OK, its set. Phuggy, we're all coming to spend the night... :-)
spend the night??!! wait a minute, I didn't say I'd go that far!! well, can I sleep with you??
I'll take the 2 am to 4 am, since I'm usually up then anyway...
Good! I'd much rather 'watch' with a good friend! :-)
I like our planned "G" rated Ghost event!
I wonder if Phuggy will be able to handle the influx of good souls that come to watch...
True, then again if he is used to having scary souls around, some "good" souls might be appreciated.(:
Lets make it a sleeping bag on the floor event and I PROMISE you if this house is 'busy' no one will need to take a watch, because we will ALL be awake.....
In my experiences, and with what I have been told and always was a standard acceptance as a rule of thumb, the highest power- hour,(likely time of most activity) is between 3 and 4 am.. not Hollyweird midnight.
Can I bring an air mattress, too? I have old bones that creak. :-)
Looking forward to it! We'll have fun!
I would prefer an air mattress as well, but I truly believe, if things BUMP and materialize in the night, this girl is NOT sleeping!!!
Dear Britlassy, I'll bring two. :-)
I doubt I sleep, either, but, no sense in being scared and stiff-- just scared stiff, will do.
My dog sleeps with me and the way he pharts and snores would likely keep all of you awake. Bring it on, but make sure you bring clean underwear.
When I first moved in here, I had just one room. One night, I was up late working on the computer, and my dog started raising hell. He was looking toward the kitchen, and when I got up, the refrigerator door was standing open. With all the other things that had been happening, I got pissed and said something along the lines of: YOU are dead and you need to go somewhere else and leave me alone. Now I am standing across the room from the fridge, way too far to get the door, and the dog was by me. The fridge door shut, and I never had any more problems in that room.
I have seen cats crossing the hall and going in apartments, kids peeping around the corner on one floor, and dancing lights in dark rooms. One woman said that something kept waking her up at 4 a.m. by crawling in the bed behind her and grabbing her boobs. There is a lot of wall tapping and sometimes it sounds like the neighbors are THROWING car engines around their apartments. It does get interesting, I tell you.
I have some pictures with a lot of orbs in them, but I cannot figure out how to get them on here. I seem to attract the darn things, and if it's 90 degrees and I get into a bunch of them, I get so cold my dentures start chattering. If someone can tell me how to get them on here, I will.
Dowser, I've changed my mind. I think I'll sleep with the woman that has the 4 am visitor. That sounds like more fun!! --hmmm...
I think I will bring my dog too, just to keep me company. She's quiet though. Yuppers! Sleeping bags, check.
A boob-grabbing spirit ... do we know if it's male or female?
Ah, MoonCrow, you had to go and ruin my fantasy!! --just teasing!
I wonder if Dowser will let me come back!
You can poop on my party anytime! Oh wait, that didn't come out right. [pun intended!] I love joking with you, how's that!
Of course you're welcome back! Just keep that thing off me! :-)
Poor Phuggy, he's going to have all kinds of company-- I'll bring the chips and dip. Any one, besides me, like bourbon?
Dowser, Phuggy is definitely a SHE; I've been one for 61 years now. Phugley is the name of my doggie. Long Island Ice Tea for me.
I got one about this building that will make you all laugh your asses off, and it is a VERY true, cross my heart one. This area had a great deal of civil war activity around it, and some of us were sitting in the lobby one night after lights out talking about it. One of the elevators opened, and out stepped an honest to God Civil War soldier. None of us could speak a word, we were all holding our breath, scared @!$%#less. Out of the dim light, one of our group said: "DAMN! I didn't know they could operate an elevator!" The soldier spoke up and said WHAT is wrong with you all? I'm George, visiting my daddy. We knew immediately who he was then.
That incident spooked me more than anything else has in this building. If any of you all can tell me how to do it, I will send some pictures of the orbs.
Okay, I am sorry for being dimwitted here...but who is George?
This would have scared the crud out of me too! It is interesting though!
Not sure either.... George McClellan, or George Custer?? Or another George??
I also thought of George Patton but since she said civil war soldier, I dismissed him.
Phuggy, dear, please forgive me... I'm a she as well, and everyone thinks I"m a he...
That's ok, in some discussions, it is better to be thought a he. :-)
I hope you don't mind lots of company-- we'll bring the food, ok?
Tell me the story behind Dowser..?
mayhap... being a female... Dowseree' (as in Dowserayy)(more of the dry Brit humour, just teasing)
I too, thought, a he... lol
my apologies..!
Dear Britlassy, I am a hydrgeologist-- I look for water for cities and industries... And, (shhhhh, don't tell my colleagues), I've been known to 'dowse' for water. :-)
That is why I chose the name, it seemed to fit!
Please take care and have a great day!
Dear Britlassy, I am a hydrgeologist-- I look for water for cities and industries... And, (shhhhh, don't tell my colleagues), I've been known to 'dowse' for water. :-)
That is why I chose the name, it seemed to fit!
Well I am impressed and the name is quite apropos'!
Dowsing with branches or metal rods?
That takes a special gift, no matter what type is used.
"I never heard a thing" so no worries Shhhhhhsshhhh
Thank you for assuaging my never ending curiosity!!!
Britlassy, if I can do it, believe me-- anybody can do it. I use a forked stick-- the drillers taught me how. It has to be green. Cut it off and with the point down, pull out the sides and hold it-- that may be the 'trick' to it. Hold the end with your palm up and your thumb applying pressure to the end. (Try sticking you hand palm up, curve your fingers into your hand, and put your thumb out like you're hitching a ride...) You have to keep pressure on it, so that the 'tines' are bent, and you won't be able to control where the point goes.
The stick will turn if there is water there. If not, it won't. It works best, for me, on fractures in the rock. They are about 40' wide and about 1 mile long. When you walk across the fracture, the stick points down, and when you reach the side, the stick points up. I use it as a tool to check the science-- it doesn't replace science. :-)
Glad to see you!
Dowser ... I think you and I have talked about dowsing before, but I dowse as well. I have my dad's bronze rods ... he fashioned them himself. He used to find water with them all the time.
I've taken their use a little further. I dowse for unmarked graves and have even dowsed for spirits with them, but of course those dowsing episodes cannot be evidenced. Interesting though, because they cross in a spot, and then I come back later and they don't, so the energy that guided them evidently moved on. Water and graves most likely don't relocate in a matter of hours.
Darling MoonCrow, you are so right! I never thought about dowsing for spirits or graves, but I wish I could. Behind the little Methodist church that my GGGGrandfather built in 1812, there are a bunch of family graves-- all grown up and they would be very difficult to find. That would be a help!
Love you, dear MoonCrow. Your posts are fascinating, and tells me again and again what a truly lovely person you are.
Merry Christmas, dear friend!
I was about 10 years old. Our family lived clannish ... grandparents just across the road ... aunt and uncle and cousins next to them ... great aunts and great grandmother just up the road.
My aunt and cousins had come over ... it was a clear late summer night ... the stars were already filling the sky. I can't remember why they came over, but we children had been outside initially, and then we were all inside.
As my aunt and cousins were leaving, we heard the strangest noise ... it was like a pulse ... a noise pulse that you felt physically and it seemed like it was everywhere.
We sent outside, thinking it was an airplane or a helicopter, but we didn't see these familiar aircraft. We did see that the sky was filled with stars, except for directly over my home. Like a huge black disk, directly over the house, the stars were absent. We saw a hint of lights on the parameter of the disk ... glows really and not winking or blinking ... just glowing. It immediately began to move northerly ... this big black disk that blocked out the stars and hummed an uncomfortable pulse of a noise, and then it just disappeared. Like it winked out. We were so spooked. What was strange was that what we felt was not like wind ... it was vibrations from the sound I think.
MoonCrow,
Are you pulling our legs? That is scary! Where abouts was this? Did anyone ever inquire about it or was there a news story/talk about the town? Very interesting--I'm a sci-fi nut and love to hear about true life stories/sightings! I want to believe...
You are right! How long ago was that show anyways? I was sooo addicted. LOL :-)
Yes it was, but I for one was VERY disappointed in the end--especially that second movie :-(
Did any of you see that Newsvine article from the UK where a continual "buzz" was being heard? No mention of any sightings, though.
I wish I did, chelli. I don't remember who seeded it either. :(
I wonder if it had to do with that spiral-like light show a week or so ago? hmmm...
That spiral was so cooool, wasn't it? No, this was awhile ago, focusing on a couple that couldn't stand it and had to move. Sure wish I could remember who had it.
chelli ...
Not pulling your leg. This happened in rural Culpeper County Virginia.
Not a UFO, but definitely paranormal activity...... some good and some bad......
#4 - Sat Dec 19, 2009 11:34 PM ESTHmmmmm, how about a spirit or maybe a ghost that makes blood ooze from the walls of my bedroon when I was 14? The stuff was tested and it really was blood but where did it come from and why? Weird things happened in that room....
Lilith, blood oozing from walls can often be demonic more so than ghost induced ... possession. It could have been poltergeist related, given your age. Has any further activity been reported?
That does not sound like poltergeist activity, but certainly related. There is another entity that is similar and I can't for the life of me remember the name of it off hand, but they are creepy and can sometimes be quite evil in their activities.
As for ghosts, they are most definitely real.
This article is about what we have seen; does that mean that you have seen a ghost? I would love to hear your story if you decide to tell it ...
That does sound like demonic activity rather than paranormal or ghost related...
Britlassy,
that is just what I thought. It sounds demonic...
Mike, thanks for an interesting article. I enjoyed reading the posts. I am sorry I don't have anything to share here, but I do live in Bigfoot country, so as soon as I catch up with him/her I''ll be back! Promise.
#5 - Sat Dec 19, 2009 11:54 PM ESTI had something that I can't place under any of the above, but freaky nonetheless. Growing up, I had lost my CD player in the car (yeah, I'm fairly young still) and I couldn't find it. My family looked everywhere in the car - moving the cushions, the seats, everything, and to no avail. Several months went by. Then, one day when I was going into the car, I found it sitting right where I would've sat on it if it were there before. I have no explanation for why it happened; couldn't have been a practical joke of my brother, he's not that kind of person.
It seems like the relatives of my father are cursed somehow, as just about all of us have had myriad experiences that defy all logic.
#6 - Sun Dec 20, 2009 12:16 AM ESTYou are not cursed, you just have not been paying attention.
My wife and I heard a ghost at Gettysburg. We were walking near where the Maine division had stood. We heard a horse running fast. You could hear the hooves and the clinking sound of metal. We heard it run past, but we never saw it, felt a breeze or saw tracks on the path, only the sound.
It was an amazing experience that made me realise there are some strange things in the world.
#7 - Sun Dec 20, 2009 11:08 AM ESTYou know, I"ve read somewhere, (my little boy loves this stuff), that Gettysburg is the most haunted site in the world. Your experience fits right in with what I've heard. Take care, Jave!
No bigfoot or ghost, but I met God once. He was a 45-year-old man from Allegan, Michigan with schizophrenia. Nice guy. He had a lot of interesting stories, and was very kind. We spent a few hours talking together. Very mild-mannered guy. Liked him.
#8 - Sun Dec 20, 2009 3:47 PM ESTI hear voices all the time. It's usually my wife saying, "Would you turn off that damn computer and come to bed!"
#9 - Sun Dec 20, 2009 4:14 PM EST"who am I to argue with talking beer" -- lol. Don't let your wife hear that; she may come home with something really expensive and say, "who am I to argue with talking ...". (:
I have seen ghosts/spirits too ... all my life, though not on a regular basis. I'll go for long spells and then it just happens. Sometimes, it's like an energy "spot" or blob ... a visually undefined shape but moving about ... with emotional communication.
#10 - Sun Dec 20, 2009 4:38 PM ESTMoonCrow -- have you ever experienced any of that associated with objects - particularly antiques?
I've always tried to keep it in perspective, and have not been spooked by it. I just stop what I'm doing, take a slow deep breath, and try to figure out what's going on.
... have you ever experienced any of that associated with objects?
Well, not on the level of psychics. I seem to pick up emotions, moods ... very sensitive to moods of others. I have touched ... fingered objects ... antique objects ... and I feel emotional residue ... basic stuff like sadness, joy, anxiety, love. It's fleeting. I may touch the same object the next day and feel nothing.
MoonCrow, I think that sounds pretty cool also. I have an antique from 2 generations past that came from the east coast [I'm on the west coast]. I have had similar experiences as you and only - once - felt a spiritual presence, or what I guessed it to be. When things are related to past loved ones, though, it is easy to think it was based on my own emotions than reality. So, I just dismissed it.
Don't dismiss it. If you know the history of the item, explore those feelings before you touch it ... there is a difference. The residue emotion will be more sudden ... may even interrupt what you feel about the object.
I feel "attachment" to all my family stuff, but when an emotion that doesn't "fit" ... sweeps in and confuses the normal adoration ... pride ... feelings attached to family that you respect and have feeling for ... try to isolate it ... and don't think on it too much. Most times my "flash" of the emotion is only about 2 seconds.
MoonCrow, a "residue emotion" is an interesting thought. All that I know was that the piece came from England originally. I have wondered if when something was owned and maybe 'cherished' by several people could possibly be relevant. I was told my Great Aunt had this piece in her bedroom and because it has a 'desk' drawer in it, it appeared she spent a lot of time using it.
I was working a job(one of many) during University years, to fit in around the class schedule, at a place called "Fleet Farm".
I had been there as a cashier for about a month when I began noticing a dense swirling mist that was consistently at the corner of the service desk. Since I was at the front line working, I saw this regularly. This formed in the middle of the path that was generally followed to the public restrooms.
Without thinking, I began to swerve around it, giving it a wide berth, till a rather sharp and attentive Service Desk employee, decided to ask me why.
Eventually I told her and she had paled several shades and related in a low tone, that she had always had an impression of a little girl there, never being able to see her, except fleetingly out of the corner of her eye.
We did some research in the months to come and found the property was a Farm with a well at that approximate location, where a girl of 5yrs of age, had fallen in and died. I always saw the mist, and when I thought no one was looking, I would murmur ello and tell her it was alright to go on now...
I did have those who noticed my altered path, and thought me more odd than before.. ah well.....
C'est La Vie
That is really spooky! Poor little thing, to fall down into a well. I hope she got to 'go home'...
Very interesting Britlassy, and just the type of "undefined" object I'm talking about. Very cool too.
When I was in college, 30 yrs ago, my girlfriend and I were sitting on a couch in the library. I started to feel a glow like sensation just below my chest cavity.  It expanded and all of a sudden it felt like a personality or something went rushing through me and out of me.  I almost think I was in the path af an interdiminsional traveler. As this happened, I slowly looked up at my girlfriend and she looked up at me.  She said "you felt it too, like someone or something just passed through you."
#11 - Sun Dec 20, 2009 5:36 PM ESTNo Angels are spiritual beings or entities, but not ghosts which are the energy left after a human has died.
#13 - Sun Dec 20, 2009 10:26 PM ESTAl 616 - Do you think you saw what you believe to be your "Guardian Angel"?
I'll deny it in court, but yes.
I'm supposed to be a "science person", so I usually keep this kind of thing under wraps.
I also had a "past life" flashback that was kinda creepy.
Thank you for feeling comfortable enough to say it now. I will admit I have a whole slew of things that I never told because I assume others would think I am psycho or making it up. Of which, the former is probably true!
If you say you believe what you experienced to be the truth, then I will believe you are telling the truth.
I am not sure I believe in ghosts but I also think there are many things unexplainable in our current knowledge or technology. Maybe other dimensions? But I do have a story that's really eery.
We built our house about 3 years ago on property that's been in the family for over 80 years. We tried to keep all we could as far as natural trees and such. We had this one huge fir near the front of the lake that we had to take down for the house footprint. we hated losing this tree and almost didn't build because of it. The tree was at least 200 years old as were most of these on the property being old growth. Perhaps its just our energy applying energy into it, but needless to say, the tree came down but we both felt a loss and a sadness about it. I can remember when I was a little kid, my grandfather talking about hearing the Redwoods moan and cry as they were being forested, so I always applied spirit to trees and such. Anyway, ever since we built, we have experienced some strange happenings.. Things like, one day my daughter (30) and I were in the kitchen on a hot summer day, getting the grand kids lunch or something. I had a full bowl of shelled peanuts sitting on the bar. No one else in the house, I was at the sink, my daughter at the refrigerator when all the sudden we heard peanuts hitting the floor. We both turned around, startled to say the least, to find that about 20 pieces of peanuts had gone flying about 10-15 feet, in fact, many of them hitting the back of the couch (open concept kitchen to front room) and all over the hardwood floor. Now that was some damn force! I mean, the logic in me tells me peanuts have enzymes, but it was like someone picked up a huge handful and threw them as hard as they could! Wooowoooooo! NO way could my daughter have reached them to throw them and I know I didn't throw them but there they were. Okay, we got over it but never forgot it. Then we started having other strange things occur, like a deck fan turning on full boar by itself and then I couldn't get it to shut off till I unplugged the damn thing. Then we had a paper shredder that started going off by itself in the middle of the night. It has a toggle switch on the top that takes a bit to depress it just to turn it on. But 3 times we were awakened on separate occasions to it being turned on. No one around, no kids, dogs can't reach it. So we move it after the 3rd time over to another area of the house. A few weeks later both my hubby and I were awakened by the sound of the papershredder going off. We got up to check it out and sure enough, it was turned on but as soon as we reached for it, it stopped. the creepiest thing about this last incident is that the damn thing wasn't even plugged in! Now, I know electric energy can get stored in machinery but I will tell you, the hairs on the back of our necks stood up for weeks. It's not like we feel a bad energy here or anything. Just that these incidences are real and did happen and aren't easily explainable. So who knows, maybe its the tree telling us how angry it is with us?! Or maybe we have pissed off some ghost who's not happy about us building here.
As far as UFO's, I don't have any stories myself but know of other's who have sworn some pretty weird happenings. I think its stupid to say other intelligent life in the universe can't or doesn't exist. Are we being visited? I don't know --but I think most of what has been experienced is our own govermental experiences with technology. I'm sure there are things none of us can even conceive of, that exist by the hands of human beings right here on our planet.
I still go with empirical evidence. But I also understand anything is quite possible and empirical evidence may already be upon us but we can't recognize it because we lack the current capacity to recognize it.
#14 - Mon Dec 21, 2009 9:09 AM EST Awesome story, Robin!!
It doesn't surprise me in the least.
In generality, many disciplines in Spiritual beliefs, state that all things alive have the capacity to leave energy behind. It is our own paranoid fear that prevents most people from recognizing it for what it is.
I noticed early on, in the lives of children, parents decry any suspicious events or even questions of 'ghostly' nature, with the "there is no such thing as...........", instead of just in a calm manner, as one would discuss the weather, question them why are they asking. Knowing the child, it would be better to Hear what they think, see or feel, rather than to dismiss and make them feel they can never share, understand and end up feeling fear, bottling it inside.
I had the fortune to spend time in N Dakota, on an Native American Reservation for 2 weeks. Even the modern day Native, has beliefs that were held by their ancestors, that all of nature has a life energy.
There is an expanding and ongoing study( debunked by skeptics) called:
Kirlian photography refers to a form of photogram made with a high voltage. It is named after Semyon Kirlian, who in 1939 accidentally discovered that if an object on a photographic plate is connected to a source of high voltage, small corona discharges (created by the strong electric field at the edges of the object) create an image on the photographic plate.
They believe this is evidence of the 'life force' or aura.
Many Natives in-tune with nature, feel this, see things most people, have been conditioned to block out.
Having said this, the tree being cut down, after all those many years, (personally I would have turned the house afore cutting it LOL) doesn't surprise me, to hear you have had disturbances in the house since.
Native beliefs of tree spirits, sky spirits and so on, it could be a former tenant that loved that tree, or just owned the land and felt violated. Hard to say without being there.
Paranormal events are very difficult to collect empirical evidence, slippery sheets you know!
Hi Britlassy, yep, I am native american but a realist and rely heavily on empirical evidence. That said; going thru the badlands as an example, every time I am thru there, I feel a real heavy sadness almost like I'm picking up on violent sad energy that hasn't been released. At times, its been so disturbingly heavy I've had to pull off the road and sob, its that intense for me. I have felt the same when I was out to the Civil war battlefields and other areas of known physical disturbance in history. It has nothing to do with just being native american or the atrocities against them solely-- I don't think. After knowing this about my own "connection" if you will, I never talked about it much. I never went on some crusade to find others about it. I just accepted it was part of me. Didn't really have a definition for it.
But, I will tell you, it helped a great deal in my own awareness when the day came I heard this story that maybe I wasn't fully nuts afterall.
I had an acquaintance who is as right wing republican as they come, and not very much into any potential "mystic" mindset. You know, one of those, "my mind's made up--don't confuse me with the facts" type guys. Well, I think he had a bit of revelation that there maybe more truth to the Kirlian Photography concept than meets the eye. He had moved to this little house out by a small airport outside a rural town. No one else lived out there, no other houses and the airport was not used much, little traffic.. Not long after he moved in, he started noticing that he never saw birds, grouse, ground animals or even insects fly around the perimeter of this house. Thought maybe it had something to do with the airport but it wasn't a busy airport so sort of just sluffed it off till he reached the point, that he never saw or heard even one creature around. IT finally got pretty bothersome to him. An awareness he could no longer deny, so he made it a daily habit of going out searching for creatures, any creature and couldn't find-- even the smallest ant, an eagle, a crow, a rabbit, nothing. He found after months of journaling his quest, that the area that contained no animal life period, seemed to be about 1.5 miles in every direction till he'd finally stumble upon animal life according to his pedometer (airport was about that same distance away from his house.) IT wasn't long after his arrival to his new homestead, he started noticing his dreams were constantly filled with images of Indian wars, bloody massacres and such. Never even taking in consideration anything like this ever even happened there but said the dream, night terrors and images became so strong he couldn't ignore what it was. He said he'd wake in a panic like he was seeing it in real time. Oftentimes images flooding his brain long after he woke up. So he did some studies on the area, and came to find out the exact area was where a masscre of a band of Indians by the US Calvary had taken place. It was well-documented and written of this exact location. Now this is a guy, who would NEVER in a million years change his thoughts about anything outside the emperical, is now experiencing something that even science in its current state couldn't yet explain. HE was picking up on the energy left over from that time. The imprint. What else could it be? He finally had to move because the images were so prevalent, he could hardly sleep. Once he moved, the dreams stopped fully. He won't even go back to the area and doesn't talk about it much outside a few people who knew what was happening to him at the time.
I don't know if our problem is a tree spirit or our own kinetic energy supplying the energy but something completely unexplainable at this point has been occuring. I do think there is a real possiblility that our own energy can cause issues, maybe interfere, cause movement of mass, etc. So I'm not all hellbent that I have any knowledge, power, connection to anything. I just know what I do feel and I can't deny it.
Oh, by the way, i also forgot to mention, out by where this tree in no longer there, we had 2 huge rocks put in for landscaping, (that came from another area off the property) both of which you can climb on and sit. We took some pictures of my granddaughter the day of peanut incident (not thinking anything about it) and all the pictures of her sitting on the rocks, you can see 2 distinct orange type orbs right behind her head. There were lots of pictures taken that day with the same camera, and no other pictures reveal orbs of any sort. I guess next time the paper shredder goes off, we should pull out the camera and see if orbs pop up.
wooowooo, indeed! :-)
Oh, one other thing. As I said, the property has been in the family for over 80 years. My husband's grandfather bought it during the great depression and erected a cabin on the property in the early 30's, so there was building here for eons before we tore it down and built new. My husband's been coming here for nearly 60 years and me, almost 30 and never in all the time we've spent here, did we ever experience odd occurences of such. It's rather telling though, that both my husband and I pick up on "the tree". Of all the things one can surmise, its the tree itself that resonates heavily within our minds.
I have nothing but the grandest respect for the Native American Culture, as they embraced my Odd Brit accent with just a snicker or two, and proceeded to show the 'white woman' what they were all about.
I got to sleep in a round earthen lodge and they indulged me by putting up a genuine TeePee... to stay out in, (door facing east of course) and then spoke in the most reverent of tones about all the things we fail to recognize with our five senses.
This was in a town called New Town, ND ... where the Three Tribes: Arikara, Hidatsa, and Mandan originated from.. amazing people!
My next novel post will be about meeting my granddaughter's great grandson in the future. It was as real as anything I have ever experienced!
#15 - Mon Dec 21, 2009 9:15 AM ESTI saw.....Now, I believe. Period! I was not the only one who saw the object hovering in our Corte Madera California neighborhood. Many neighbors saw the UFO and gathered outside on the drive to talk about what we had seen. I was only four and a half and it scared the BeJeezus out of me. My sister who was in the room with me when the object hovered over the neighborhood was so terrified she buried herself underneath her bed and had to be dragged out by pulling her feet by my Dad.
#16 - Mon Dec 21, 2009 12:09 PM ESTGhosts are my thing. I actually have been intereted in them for years since I was a teenager. It started when I had stuff that kept moving on me.
I think the most startling experience was after my grandpa had passed away. The cat kept staring at his old recliner. (This occurred after he had been gone for about 3 years.) The recliner started rocking then would stop. Then, it would start again just to stop a few minutes later. My husband and I had gone to investigate some strange noises that were coming from the living room when we discovered this. We stood at the doorway watching the recliner for quite a few minutes, both of us rooted to the floor.
There were a couple of other incidents that we couldn't explain within the next year after this.
#17 - Mon Dec 21, 2009 3:56 PM ESTIn college at San Luis Obispo CA, I rode my horse to Poly Canyon as it was a beautiful night. I saw a light go straight up and hover for a moment before speeding up and off to the right. Then it grew in size and disappeared. I have always been of the contention that we are a self centered race if we believe we are the only life in an extensive universe. I was only able to vote for one catagory but I would have also checked ghosts if I could have.
#18 - Mon Dec 21, 2009 6:55 PM ESTWhen I was a teenager and young adult, I would often get woke up in the middle of the night with my bed getting shook like crazy. It was like someone was standing at the end of it shaking it back and forth. It scared the crud out of me many times!
My sister in-law laughed at me about it. She did not believe me until one night when my husband and I spent the night at her house. We were woke up in the middle of the night to her screaming. Her bed was shaken so hard the legs on the head of the bed went through the floor...that made a believer out of her, that is for sure! She didn't doubt the things I told her after that...
I always figured it was demons doing it. There are many other stories I could tell...!
Here is a UFO story that happened one cold Minnesota night. It wasn't flying, but it was creepy, scary, and totally weird!
My husband and I were driving home late one night after having spent the evening at my mother's house. We were driving home through the country since it was shorter than driving the highway...after passing several farm houses, we came to a stretch of road that had nothing but fields on both sides. It felt pretty desolate at that time of night...as we went around a curve in the road, we saw a huge light in an empty field. It was about the size of a football field around, but there was absolutely no light source! This was just a huge empty field, no houses, no nothing around it...but there was that huge, football field sized light shining in the field.
Don't know what it was doing there, how it got there, why it was there, etc...it scared me half to death that is for sure! My ex thought we should go back to take another look! What an idiot...(notice I said ex)? LOL!
#19 - Wed Dec 23, 2009 9:54 AM ESTWhere in Minnesota....
My friends and I, were in Rochester, a few miles for the NOW International (snicker*) airport.. when we saw the very large object over the trees on the country road.
#20 - Wed Dec 23, 2009 10:52 AM ESTWe were in the Alida/Shevlin area. We lived in Minerva, MN. at the time. A farming area...
Here is a story that cracks me up everytime I think about it...
One night my eight year old son and I got home kind of late. I pulled into my driveway and got out of the car. As I turned around to open the back door to get my son out of the backseat, I noticed something from the corner of my eye. I looked up in the sky and there was this HUGE screen with words on it hovering there above my house. I stood frozen in shock not knowing what it was...for a second I thought it was God sending me a sign (snicker...), then all at once my eyes adjusted (LOL) and I saw clearly what was behind the sign (rofl)...a blimp! It was a blimp floating silently over my house with a big t.v. thingamabob on it!!! It scared me so bad at first, I about fell to the ground, ROFL!!!
Ha Ha....not only would I have fallen to the ground I probably would have wet my pants also.
I scare easily and that would have done the trick I am sure.
How funny Bonnie.
Pretty stupid, huh? LOL!!! It cracks me up how easily I was spooked. My heart was pounding so fast and hard I could hear it in my ears...
Pretty stupid, huh?
No Bonnie....I've scared myself worse. In fact last night ROFLMAO,I about had a heart attack. I was carrying groceries and alcohol into the house for a get together I am having tomorrow and I had both hands full.It was dark inside and I dropped the two small grocery bags off on the kitchen island and continued on with a bag of ice and the drink mixers to the game room. I was just about to the wet bar when I heard this deep voice say ho-ho-ho- Merry Christmas and some jerking/ rustling sounds. I about lost it...dropped the ice, clung to the mixers and fell to me knees. I thought my heart was going to burst from my chest. Then I felt like such a dumb butt....I remembered I had put my six foot animated life like Santa on motion sensor mode and not turned it off two days earlier! =0 With my Chihuahua licking my face and jumping all over me I had to curse then laugh at my silly self. Now I have left the bar lights on dim until the holidays are over. I seriously thought for a second there I was taking my last breath here on earth. OMGoddness I can be such a dufus at times. Now I laugh so hard thinking about my encounter with Santa I double over...oh well, its going to make a great party story!
Oh Kimberly! That is pretty funny!!!! LOL!!! That reminds me of the Elvis life size cardboard display I ran into when I was cleaning a friends house. I thought for sure a man was hiding quietly in the room waiting for me to venture in so he could kill me, lol! When I saw Elvis, my heart almost stopped, hahahahaaaaaaaaaa...
My nephew told me yesterday his mom (my sister) has one of those santa's. He hates it. It is always saying HO HO HO anytime someone makes a move...it would have scared me too!
My nephew told me yesterday his mom (my sister) has one of those Santa's . He hates it. It is always saying HO HO HO anytime someone makes a move...it would have scared me too!
That's funny my little nephew absolutely hates mine also. He is very life like, pretty intimidating if you were only three, even in a fully lit room!
oh goodness me I started laughing with both Bonnies's and Kimberly's stories and couldn't get stopped!!
"I" am the one that marches in, fearless bold and determined, not too much scares me..
*wait for it*.......Outwardly.....
I can be quaking inside, marshmallow knees and stomach hiding behind my tonsils.... but you would never know it......
March March stomp, Who Goes THERE!!! March MARCH!!!!
Ghosts moan in the dark, in my ear, no problem..
"If that is all you can do is moan, come back when you can think of something worth saying"
BUT!!!
The least little indication of some UFO or have a dream about 'grey men'..... frightened out of my wits.
Ever see "Fire In The Sky"?
shook throughout that entire movie(true story)
Fire in the Sky is a 1993 film based on a real-life encounter,
On November 5, 1975, near Snowflake, Arizona, logger Travis Walton (D. B. Sweeney) disappears mysteriously during an encounter with a flying saucer. Authorities treat with skepticism the outrageous story related by the only witnesses to the alleged event, including Walton's co-workers and his best friend and future brother-in-law, Mike Rogers (Robert Patrick). They are suspected of foul play despite no apparent motive or knowledge as to Walton's whereabouts.
A state lawman finds a tabloid newspaper in the crew's pickup truck and quickly concludes that tensions had arisen between Walton and surly co-worker Allan Dallis (Craig Sheffer), leading the lawman to conclude that a murder cover-up is under way. However, all of the suspects pass lie-detector tests and the case becomes stalled. Five days later, and just as mysteriously as he disappeared, Walton reappears, claiming to have been abducted by extraterrestrials and taken aboard a UFO. A flashback shows Walton being experimented upon against his will
Wow. That sounds interesting. I will have to see if I can find it somewhere. Thanks:-)
I would like to see it. It would certainly be something different for us to watch, lol.
Fire in the Sky .. scare the patoobies right out of me, knowing it was related from a genuine real experience, as well as having me never regard the little grey men as "coming in Peace".
Takes the IDEA of any fun.... just coming out from under the bed, Mike!!!
Bonnie... any video store.. VCR or DVD, rental.. no little children should watch it if prone to nightmares or fear of things..
I know I wanted my blankie and felt like I was 6yrs old and needed my MUM!!!
hmmmm...
Maybe I had better Not watch this movie...
I tend to revisit movies (in thought) I have seen at the oddest times...like in the middle of the night when I am the only one out of bed alone in another room, or walking by an open door with the lights off, etc. I don't know how many times I have almost panicked when walking through a room with the lights off and I have thought of something scary.
If it scared other NewsViners, I know I would get scared too, and that would not be a good idea...so I will just take your word for it and not watch it.
Thanks for being honest about how scary it is:-)
Bonnie,
Indeed to some people the film, is frightening, depending on how much you believe in life other than human, being out there. I( HAD to see it) and I have watched it several times since the first, and it never fails to make me pull the curtains on the windows, and jump at sounds afterwards......should you decide..... watch during the day.... and make sure you have a huge sleepover with lots of people to distract you!!!! LOLOL
I am thinking I will have to skip seeing it...I have a very vivid imagination when the lights are off, or when I am home alone...I do not like to get scared, and I know I would get scared seeing this (Thank you for warning me!), because once I get afraid, it never wants to leave me...hahahaaa...
I had a "visitor" early this morning. It was about 1:30 a.m. I had gone to bed and to sleep around 10:30, but was now awake. I've been snowed in and the plow finally came and cleared our driveway, so I was going into work this morning, and was thinking about all the stuff I had to do at work.
BeBee, my little spaniel, sleeps on the pillows behind my head. She jumped up, startled, and was sitting up. I reached back and petted her, but she got off the bed and into the recliner next to the bed.
I had just settled back in, hoping to go back to sleep, when something stood on and laid down on my hair. It was pretty obvious, too, BeBee does it all the time. I thought maybe BeBee had gotten back in the bed, but when I felt the area, she wasn't there. She was still in the recliner.
I perceived that it was more cat-like than dog-like ... but I'm not sure. I just know that whatever it was, it made BeBee get out of the spot so it could have it.
Stuff like this happens to me ... I'm not spooked by it any more.
That is very cool, MonnCrow. I've had those things happen to me.
Have you, believer? It seems I wind up seeing or perceiving more animal anomalies than human ... not sure why. When I lived in South Carolina and my dog died, I saw her the entire time I lived in that home after her death. I have felt that she did not travel back with me here ... back to Virginia, but now ... maybe she has found me afterall, though I feel this was more cat-like.
Any details on your experiences you feel comfortable sharing?
I lived in a house where a suicide occurred, which may or may not explain the weird phenomena that went on there.
I lived in another house which had latched doors opening and closing, sometimes while we were sitting in the room. The house also produced tiny moving lights that would flit through the rooms. Twice I was awakened by a voice calling my name and something pushing on me.
I eventually named it, whatever it was, "Eleanor" and whenever visitors saw something freaky, I would say "It's just Eleanor. Say hello and she'll leave you alone."
I've also seen and experienced things out on the reservation, but that's a different thing, I think.
So now you know why my friends think I'm odd. :-)
Very interesting. I hear voices too. I'll be asleep and a voice ... so loud it awakens me ... will be saying something, loudly usually. I never recognize the voice and it's always different.
Once, one was shouting my name. I have a bad habit of breathing shallow or holding my breath when I'm stressed. This time I was sound asleep, but this man's voice kept calling my name sharply ... over and over again ... a demanding urgency in his tone. I finally was dragged out of my sleep, gasping ... I think I had quit breathing. I was light headed and I had sparkles in my vision even in the dark room.The voice was silent after I awoke. I felt unsettled, like someone I didn't know had been in my room.
My family thinks I'm odd ... my friends think I'm unique .... "odd" ... it's a state of mind ... "unique" is a distinction. :-)
I would love to hear more about the happenings on a reservation.
Well, I think you're both unique and odd. In a good way, of course. :-)
I've had the same "voice" experiences. It's common enough for me that I hardly even note it anymore. It's almost like the voices are there to wake me up, like an alarm clock. Only once was it a voice I recognized.
It think this is sort of common, but some folks are wary of talking about it. There's a stigma attached to this, capiche? I figure for every person who acknowledges this, there are two more who won't discuss it for fear of being labeled.
Agreed ... fear of being labeled.
Funny how a lot of folks are Ok with being labeled politically ... but have a melt down if they are labeled because of experiences that can't be easily explained.
I had one voice even give me a name ... it was a complete name and not a common name. I don't think it was his name, because he used it in a sentence and then told me to be sure to ask something ???? I'm so bummed I can't remember it now. I have since placed a notebook & pen bedside should he decide to talk to me again in the middle of the night, citing names and instructions. What was also odd, was that he kept repeating it, over and over until I finally awoke.
Yeah, that is odd, repeating it over and over. That's never happened to me.
Why do think that happened? Was it an attempt to make contact? because I've never felt that these voices were expecting answer. Is that what it felt like?
On the instances, where I don't think making me resume breathing was the issue, I don't their motivation was "contact." I think they have something they need to say ... need to convey.
Like they are waiting for the moment when they can communicate whatever it is they want to communicate. While I'm sleeping, I think they can get "through" ... on some level ... Wish I was astute enough to receive their messages more clearly.
MoonCrow, being "unique" and "strange" is a good thing! I cherish those labels, in fact "NORMAL" people frighten the crap out of me. I think they are most likely dangerous and do my best to avoid them.
Ok, I think I found a way for you all to see these two pictures. Try this and see if it works. I am sort of new at this, and if this is nort allowed on NV, someone let me know. The date on the pictures is the date they were taken, and it was hot and humid here. In the one with all the orbs, I was FREEZING; even my dentures were shattering. I couldn't SEE anything, but sure could feel it. No one else could see them either untill we downloaded the pictures.
http://www5.snapfish.com/thumbnailshare/AlbumID=823141026/a=1738664026_1738664026/otsc=SHR/otsi=SALBlink/COBRAND_NAME=snapfish/
Yep, I saw the orbs...
Scary...at least I think so, lol.
Very cool. I've so wanted to invest in some equipment that picks up energies or movements ... meters like ghost hunters use. What fun that would be!
MoonCrow, search your area for ghost hunting or paranormal groups. We used digital cameras for the most part. If you can't find a group, you might want to start one. Seems there is a lot of interest in that these days.
If you use a digital camera, just start shooting all over the place. That's what we do unless there is a specific noise, or cold feeling. I will see if I can get another link so you can see more pictures.
Those pictures were taken at a restaurant that use to be the home of a big shot in the civil war. Where I was standing, a woman set herself on fire in a car several years back and burned to death. The place has a lot of history.
I agree. Ok, I will confess to having experienced cold spots and colder rooms, and yes, possibly orbs. If I stick around here too long, I'm going to let too much out!
AWWWWWWW CL1, go ahead. From what I've read on here, we all have been there. I'd love to hear about your experiences.
Hi Phuggy, I think what is so difficult about devulging is that most recognized psychological disorders are associated with those thinking they have special powers, psychic, etc. That is what has kept my mouth closed. If it weren't for an experience I had in Arizona with a group, and one other person said they "heard it and felt something, a presence", I would still be wondering, "Am I crazy?" The experience was in an ancient Indian Kiva and there was a chant of some sort and a physical experience. Weird I know, but to me and one other, it was very real.
No, my friend, you are NOT mentally disordered! However, I can certainly understand why you said that, and you told the truth with it.
Got another funny for you. I went to see a psychiatrist because of my PTSD thing. He was asking me the usual questions, so I got a jump on him. Told him like this: Before you ask, YES, I do see and hear things. He looked at me rather strange, and I told him I saw and heard ghosts. Another strange look, then he asked me if I discriminated against people who didn't beleive in ghosts. I shot back: Do YOU discriminate against people that don't like carrots? Then came the one about suicide, and I told him NO CHANCE on that one, I had too many people to piss off before I died, and I hadn't even got started on that one.
Phuggy, that is hilarious! That made my day, thanks.
I often wonder if many cultural religions got started due to certain members of the group having "experiences". Those that don't experience perhaps idolize those that do and ended up making them the leaders of their groups. Don't know. I am perpetually trying to understand many of the phenomenas. I used to fear, but don't anymore, despite not understanding it. If there truly is association of spirits with objects, I can see how some tangent religions may have derived from those experiences, as well. Nice chatting with you today.
(sorry on misspelling divulging - I like to joke I must have dyslexic fingers!)
Not to worry about misspellings, I have phinger pharts all the time, always have to go back and correct.
There are a lot of things that happen on a reservation...
#23 - Wed Dec 23, 2009 9:28 PM ESTWhen I was a teenager I spent a lot of time on the reservation. Most all of my friends lived there. When I was in eighth grade, my best friend at the time was killed in a car accident. It happened in the summer, and since I was out of state when it happened, I did not find out until I got back.
My ex husband, (whom I did not know at the time), was at a friends house playing cards. He went outside to his car to get something. When he got there he saw a girl sitting in the car. He asked her what she was doing, and she said she wanted a ride home. He told her okay. When he was done playing cards he would give her a ride home, but did she want to come in and wait? She said no.
So after awhile, he comes out to the car and the girl is still sitting there, so he told her he would take her home. He asks her her name, and she says Maryann Jackson...so he takes her to her house and she gets out, and before his eyes, she disappears.
He found out about her and her death from other people. He did not know who she was before that happened.
These are the types of things that happen on the reservation...
I have also seen things when I lived on the reservation...everyone who lives there knows that things happen that they cannot explain...I have my opinions, but whether I am right or not, I don't know.
The second home that we owned had a haunting. It didn't appear until we started remodelling the place and removing walls and stuff. He was a noisy ghost, always hammering away in the attic and tossing things around occasionally. One room in the house was especially active and was always way colder than the rest of the house. It wasn't scary, just a little odd. I always wondered if the people who bought the house had the same experiences that we had. I never told them that the house they were buying came with a resident.
#24 - Thu Dec 24, 2009 1:53 AM ESTAll of this is certainly interesting. What is so difficult to understand is how a supposed non-entity, no physical form - can touch us or bump into us?
That I can't answer since I have never been touched or bumped into by an entity. I hope that never happens.
Ok, here goes.....I have bumped into something and have had touch twice. See, I told you I am crazy!!
I don't think you are crazy at all. Although we have physical bodies, we are spirit inside these bodies of ours. Once this shell (body) dies, our spirit is still alive, and it will stay alive forever...we will go one place or another depending on whom we choose to serve...but what I am saying is this, the spirit realm is just as real and alive as this physical realm, so it is not at all unusual or crazy to see or hear or feel something from the spirit world...just because we are at this time clothed in flesh, which makes it seem unreal, it is just as real as what we are right now...hope this makes sense:-)
Hi Bonnie, well, that is a belief that many share. I still have trouble with the concept of physical sensory perception coming from a non-physical force. It just doesn't equate with human knowledge. Yes, from what I have mentioned in this article, you would be correct that I perceive 'something' and can only interpret it as a spirit since I can't see it. So, with the experiences I have had, I do believe something is there. I have read minimal on some of the religions and out-of-body beliefs to find some insights, but haven't found any answers that fit my experiences.
I don't think you're crazy either, CL1. My father is a big, hard working, no nonsense kind of guy. He saw a full body apparition of a man who had once lived in their home. If my father said this happened, I believe him.
Thank you littlereddog. I never talk about this because no one else does that I know. I appreciate hearing that others have unexplainable experiences. That is really interesting about your father. I agree that it is easier to find credibility with those you know and trust. I've spent a lot of time over the past year in the political arenas here. After listening to so many liberals making remarks about Republicans {I am not} being delusional, superstitious, unintelligent and um,..whatever other nasty things they said, I thought I had better keep my mouth shut!!! ( ..just being silly..)
Dowser, I have done the same thing with clothes hangers. Straighten them out, then bend one end for a handle, works quite well for me.
Ok, you all bring some food, I will make a huge Cajun Enchilada casserole and we will have a royal feast.
There is a man here named Ken, George is alive breathing, and Kens son. So sorry for the confusion.
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